Legislature(1993 - 1994)
04/19/1993 01:00 PM House JUD
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SB 84 REVOKE DRIVER'S LICENSE IF USE FALSE I.D. CHAIRMAN PORTER announced that the committee would take up SB 84 next. Number 244 JOSH FINK, LEGISLATIVE AIDE TO SEN. TIM KELLY, PRIME SPONSOR of SB 84, stated that SB 84 addressed the problem of minors who used false driver's licenses to purchase alcohol. He said that a similar bill had passed the House last year, but died in the Senate during the final hours of the session. He commented that the Department of Health and Social Services (DHSS), the Department of Public Safety (DPS), Mothers Against Drunk Driving (MADD), the Municipality of Anchorage's Health and Human Services Commission, the Bristol Bay Health Corporation, and the Anchorage Daily News, among others, supported the bill. MR. FINK said that SB 84 would require that a hologram be placed over vital information on a driver's license in order to prevent tampering. Also, he said, the phrase "under 21" would be placed on driver's licenses of minors, clearly indicating to alcohol servers that the bearer of the license could not legally purchase alcohol. Additionally, he said, SB 84 would deter minors from attempting to purchase alcohol with a fraudulent driver's license. Driving privileges would be revoked for any individual caught trying to purchase alcohol with a fraudulent driver's license. Revocation would be for 60 days for a first offense, and one year for a second or subsequent offense, he said. Number 283 REP. GREEN asked Mr. Fink to explain the two fiscal notes accompanying the bill. Number 290 MR. FINK responded that the Senate Finance Committee felt that the DPS's fiscal note was too high, and based on unreasonable assumptions regarding the number of licenses that would be revoked. But, he said, the DPS had convincing arguments in defense of its fiscal note. He stated that it was up to the committee to decide which fiscal note it chose to attach to the bill. Number 312 REP. PHILLIPS remarked that there was tremendous support for last year's bill which was similar to SB 84. She applauded the use of holograms on driver's licenses. Number 332 JUANITA HENSLEY, CHIEF, DRIVER SERVICES, DIVISION OF MOTOR VEHICLES, DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SAFETY, said the DPS supported SB 84, but opposed the Senate Finance Committee's fiscal note. She stated that holograms would appear on all driver's licenses, not just those belonging to minors. She said that every year the Alcoholic Beverage Control Board sent the DMV approximately 500-700 fraudulent licenses confiscated in liquor establishments. She estimated that law enforcement officials confiscated another 500-700 licenses. She said that she had a letter from the manager of Chilkoot Charlie's, a bar in Anchorage, claiming that his employees confiscate over 400 fake licenses every year. She commented that SB 84 could potentially result in many licenses being revoked. She said the DPS's fiscal note was based on a conservative estimate of 1500 licenses being revoked every year. MS. HENSLEY mentioned that the DPS would soon be able to use an imaging system for driver's license photographs in its Anchorage field office. She said that the new system would allow the DMV to guard against minors obtaining licenses while using someone else's identification. Number 409 REP. GREEN asked Ms. Hensley if a person, upon turning 21, would get a new driver's license that did not say "under 21" on it. Number 413 MS. HENSLEY said that Rep. Green was correct. Number 418 CHAIRMAN PORTER asked Ms. Hensley if the type of licenses proposed in SB 84 would prevent a minor from obtaining a license using his or her sibling's identification. Number 425 MS. HENSLEY responded that the imaging system would prevent such a situation in the Anchorage field office only, but not in other DMV field offices. She said that individuals "office hop," meaning that if they could not obtain a fraudulent license in one office, they tried another office. Number 435 CHAIRMAN PORTER asked if SB 84 was an attempt to reduce a person's ability to alter an existing license. (REP. DAVIDSON arrived at 2:41 p.m.) Number 441 MS. HENSLEY said that the chairman was correct. Number 459 CHAIRMAN PORTER asked how SB 84 would increase the number of licenses that DMV revoked. Number 463 MS. HENSLEY replied that, when an individual used a fraudulent license to purchase alcohol or to enter a liquor establishment, a law enforcement officer was required to issue a notice and order of revocation, to confiscate the license, and to notify the DMV of the revocation under SB 84's provisions. Number 476 CHAIRMAN PORTER asked if that was not already occurring. MS. HENSLEY said that it was not. REP. PHILLIPS commented that SB 84 was a very good bill. She made a motion to move it out of committee with individual recommendations and the DPS's fiscal note. Number 489 MS. HENSLEY stated that SB 84 also increased the cost of a driver's license. There being no objection to the motion to pass SB 84 out of committee, it was so ordered.
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